Posted by: cindybythesea | June 5, 2011

The Spirit of America, The Spirit of Babylon

    The woman in the harbor

Next to the American flag. I can’t think of any other symbol that stirs patriotism and love of country more than does the Statue of Liberty.  A gift from the French in 1884, it had been commissioned a few years earlier in honor of America’s one hundredth birthday.  Designed by a young french sculptor by the name of Frederic -Auguste Bartholdi, it was his ambition to build a sculpture reminiscent of the great Colossus that once stood at the greek island of Rhodes. It was constructed in Paris, France, took nine years to complete and was finally shipped to the United States in a total of 214 boxes.

The statue is 151 feet tall and together with its base reaches 305 feet in to the mid-Atlantic sky.  Regarding its design, it is said, –  that the face of the statue was modeled after the sculptors mother and the body after a prostitute.   http://www.aviewoncities.com/nyc/statueofliberty.htm  

On a bronze plaque inside the monument is a sonnet composed by poet Ezra Lazarus titled, The Colossus. Written in 1883, its stirring words, became the anthem for the poor and oppressed, who would leave everything behind, in the hope of finding a new home of freedom and liberty on these hallowed shores.

The Colossus

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
“Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she
With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

Beautiful, commanding words that stir the heart and spirit. But, I have to ask myself, “who is this woman who stands in New York Harbor” and more importantly –“to whom is it, she beckons?”

America is a multi-cultural society. A blend of people from around the world, who for the most part, gave up their native tongues, to be American.  With the collective skill and talent amassed from this great group of people, it seemed like there was nothing America could not accomplish; and America thrived.

But, before there was an America, long before there was an American, there was another group of people,  who, with a shared language endeavored to make a name for themselves by building a tower whose top would reach high in to the heavens. (Genesis 11:1-9).

The Bible tells us that when God, saw what they were up to, he came down and confounded or mixed their languages, so, they could not accomplish what they set out to do, for, if they were successful, (which, they would have been), history would have advanced at a rate not yet intended by God.  There was a time coming in the future, when he would allow it, but, at that time was not yet.

“They are one people and have one language and nothing will be witholden from them which they purpose to do” Genesis 11:5-8

And, from that time forward, until the discovery of this country known as America, the nations and their languages would remain divided.

There are those who contend that Mystery Babylon spoken of in Revelation 17 & 18 and Babylon of Jeremiah 50 & 51 are speaking not of Babylon of old, but, of a new Babylon, who until the time of the end would remain a mystery. And, I am more convinced than ever, that the Babylon spoken of in these chapters, is the latter day unifier of languages, the United States of America.

Revelation 17, has this to say about the woman who sits on many waters.

“One of the angels who had the seven  bowls came and said to me. ‘Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute – who sits on many waters. With her the kings of the earth committed adultery and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries ….. She held a golden cup in her hand filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. This title was written on her forehead:  Mystery, Babylon the Great, the Mother of Prostitutes and of the abominations of the earth.”  Revelation 17:1-5

Bordered to the West by the great Pacific and the East by the great Atlantic, the gulf of Mexico to her south and the Great Lakes to the north, it would be a fair assessment, to say that America is indeed, a land, which sits among many waters.

God, in Revelation 17:1-5, has brought a serious charge against mystery Babylon. He calls her a prostitute; one, who has caused the nations of the world to share in her sorceries, her filthiness and sins. And, who can deny that we, are the world’s biggest exporter, when it comes to pornography, (and related materials, whether music or film) and the world’s best customer, when it comes to drugs. And, worst of all, children have been sold in the sex slave industry to customers, who more than likely have accrued their wealth from the activities above.

America has an appearance of being good, champion of freedom and liberator of the oppressed; we like to think of ourselves this way, but, the body has over taken the head, and, we, are anything but that.

When the merchants of the world witness the burning of Babylon, listen to their lament from Revelation 18:11-13: Do they care anything about her? No, what they lament is the money they will be missing out on by selling her goods. 

“The merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her because no one buys their cargoes any more, — cargoes of gold, silver, precious stones and pearls, … wine and olive oil, fine flour and wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and carriages and the bodies and souls of men“.

But, this was not always the case for there was a time when Babylon is described as a gold cup in the Lord’s hand.

There was a time, when God poured out his blessing on this nation of immigrants. A time when the gospel was preached, mission work flourished and expanded around the globe, and the hungry were fed, both from the bounty of our great harvests and from the word of God; – and across America on Sunday mornings, church pews were full.

But, eventually, the chaste head of lady liberty gave way to her larger portion, the prostitutes body and the woman who was, became virtually unrecognizable, as the woman who is.

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Day after tomorrow, on June 7, President Obama will  host a state dinner in honor of German Chancellor Angela Merkel. In reading through Jeremiah, 50, and 51, concerning the judgment of Babylon, I was surprised to find what I think may be an interesting connection to the date of the dinner.

If you have been following my blog the past few days, you know, that I (and others) have been looking at President Obama as a type of King Belshazzar.  We’ve discussed the handwriting on the wall in Daniel 5:24-28 and the meaning of the dire warning, Mene, Mene, Terkel, Parsin.  We’ve also looked at whether the date written by the President on 5/24/11 as 5/24/08 was deliberate, a pre-mature senior moment or a pointer to the Daniel 5:24-28 scripture.

In chapter 51:7, the Bible has this to say:

“Babylon was a gold cup in the Lord’s hand; she made the whole earth drunk, therefore, they have now gone mad.”  Jeremiah 51:7 

5 +1 = 6, which, I believe, could also be interpreted as 6/7 – the date of the state house dinner. 

If so, why this particular date?  And, then it began to dawn on me, that perhaps, it is not the date which is so important, but, rather the guest that it honors. 

On June 20, 1782, the bald eagle was chosen as America’s national emblem and appears on the great seal of the United States.  The German coat of arms also bears the image of the eagle as did the Nazi’s with their double-headed eagle.

The symbol of the Eagle dates back to ancient Egypt, where it symbolized the god Horus, god of sky, god of war and was viewed as the protector of Egypt. In fact, the eagle has a long history of being the choice symbol of pagan cultures.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_(heraldry)

When President Obama spoke before the German people at the Victory Column in Berlin, he made mention of “of our common history” and “our common destiny”. Leaving many to wonder, what common history and what common destiny, he was referring to.

I wonder, if under the auspices of the June 7 meeting, a “convergence of sorts” will take place.

The e-coli out break in Germany and the tornadoes in this country during the same month, (May) seem to link the two of them together, as Chancellor Merkel went on record as supporting President Obama in his call for a return to the 1967 borders, calling it a “a good path”. It’s been determined now, that the E-Coli breakout in Germany originated in Hamburg, the birth place of Chancellor Merkel.  You don’t say!

Without a doubt, judgment on “Babylon” is coming. How soon? No one knows, but, the general consensus is soon. In Jeremiah 51, it appears that the King of Babylon survives to receive the news from various couriers regarding the wide-spread destruction of his Kingdom.  Will he be the one, who, like a phoenix will rise up out of the ashes to take control of what will be a new world order? I wouldn’t be surprised.

I believe, that Israel still has hope that America will be her defender. The destruction of the United States will settle that question once and for all.  With no one to defend her, Israel may finally be willing to agree to the demands being placed upon her – but, it will be, as the Bible describes it – a covenant with death.  In the end, it will be the Lord God Jehovah who will come to her rescue.

I wish I could say that the spirit of America, is the Holy Spirit of God, but, that is simply not the case and we all know it. As I write this, I wonder how, we, who bear the name of Jesus Christ can look ourselves in the mirror any longer. Read Jeremiah 50, 51 and Revelation 17,18 and you will be able to see how (outside the blood of Christ), God views this once great nation.

 May we truly and fully repent.

Babylon, the hour of your destruction is near!

 “Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, they shall prosper who love thee”  Psalm 122:6   Watching and waiting with YOU for the soon return of Jesus!  Cindy

 

 

 

 

 

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  1. Cindy, thanks for the insightful post!

    I’m not big on trying to massage numbers especially when they aren’t naturally explicit (e.g., the number 51 is not reasonably broken into 5+1), but still do appreciate your heart for searching things out in such detail.

    The eagle observation is quite interesting. Whether or not June 7th turns out to be a major turning point or not, events are unquestionably growing more urgent, whether disasters or Middle East politics & violence, and it is reasonable to expect we will see some decisive events in the near future.

    The following video series presented an interesting tour through history, showing another possibility for who Lady Liberty really is. Admittedly, the episode that mentions the US is quite a ways into the series, but most of it is rather intriguing and worth a viewing:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/TheFuelProject#g/u
    Here’s the specific episode, bearing in mind the narrator lays out a pretty convincing case in the preceding episodes for his surmisation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUJwIhM2yxk

    God bless
    [ Thank you Jay for writing! Perhaps, you are right regarding the numbers. I can say this, I whole heartedly believe the Lord used those numbers in drawing my attention to that verse. Do I expect anything overt to take place on 6/7? Not necessarily. What I am hoping is that the overwhelming message of this post will be used to strip away any facade, any of us may still have regarding our current status as a nation,before God in these last days. From my perspective, this is one of the most compelling and important posts, I have written to date. Blessings, C]

    • To your comments: Amen!

      • maybe I am not too imaginative, but I couldn’t get past the ’67 victory date, and the 6/7 (potential collusion to) divide…then in the sixth decade (since birth of Israel) the start of seven years.

        [Thanks, Janie, I really appreciate your observation and I think you have hit on something pretty interesting! A couple of thoughts crossing my mind all ready; If it all comes together, perhaps the subject of my next post. Thanks again! C]

  2. Cindy,
    Thanks again for all you write. Hmmmm Obama speaking on June 7th!!! Shavuot Eve. June 8th being the day the 10 Commandments were read to the Israelites and our Pentecost. Maybe he should read them. Interesting.
    Suzy

    [Maybe he should read them is right Suzy!!! Who knows, may be God will write them on the wall for him! Blessings! C]

  3. Hi Cindy,
    i saw this morning this article and the thought came to mind, “Well, that must mean she isn’t Babylon.” Because of who was stating it – I don’t know much about him and his beliefs – America as being Babylon.
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/hey-american-the-floods-are-totally-gods-judgement-because-of-your-filth-and-abominations-louis-farrakhan-explains-how-america-is-babylon/

    But after reading you and Carlos I thought you might find it interesting too.

    Some consider man-made influences with the weather (Haarp/Cern), but that may not be the reason.

    Thanks again.

    [ Hi DC, good question and yes,it can be confusing. Louis Farrakhan (also known as the nation of Islam) is another version of Jeremiah Wright, whose teaching President Obama sat under for over 20 years. Farrakahn is anti-semitic and racist against whites. The enemy is no stranger to manipulating scripture to serve their purposes. When you read Revelation 17 & 18 together along with Jeremiah 50 and & 51, it becomes easy to see that it is speaking of one specific and yet future event.

    The reason I wrote today’s post is because I was hoping that some of my own Christian friends and family would wake up and recognize that the United States is not above the judgment of God and is in fact, due for it. Right now, I am thinking of Revelation 18: 7, where Babylon boasts that she sits as a Queen, will never be widowed and will never mourn. I think alot of people today, Christians included fall in to that category. They just don’t see how the America of apple pie, babies and American flags could ever be anything but, just that. We still think God is on the side of good ol’ boys, good dogs and patriotism – throw some potato salad in with that and you know, we’re gonna be alright! 7 days with the flu has given me plenty of time to read, pray and write – stepping off my soap box now! C]

    • It is getting to where the judgment of God against America cannot be denied, therefore the adversary will begin to proclaim the truth by the apostates to gain them credibility with their own deceived followers, but to discredit the truth to the true believers by uttering it from the lips of such deceivers.

      I just finish posting about this very thing on my blog.

      “It is my persuasion that there are precious truths that the adversary has willfully allowed to be forefront beliefs of various denominations and religions of the world, but only with the intent that they would be rejected as false doctrines by others seeking truth because their denomination or pastor cries out “cultish!” Certainly, the way these other religious institutions may hold and exercise these truths can render them null; for any truth tainted with falsehood becomes a lie just as Jesus and Paul warned, ‘A little leaven leavens the whole lump.’”

      This is no different than the Damsel in Acts following Paul around endorsing him –
      Ac 16:16 And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying: 17 The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation.

      It was an attempt to gain more credibility in order to deceive after Paul departed (I think LOL)

      Peace,

      William

      [Great job on your post “The Eighth Beast”, I think you’ve put together a pretty good case for the “Cinderella” that fits that slipper – and I am looking forward to further writing along that line. Also, your post titled ” Obama vision? – Vatican influence was very good as well. I was shocked (though should not have been) that some Israeli’s actually believe a two state solution and a return to the 1967 borders will bring them peace. Wow! I did hear recently how the Palestinian cause is gaining momentum across college campuses here (believe it or not) and as a result anti-semitism and anti-christian sentiment is on the rise. Recommending both your posts tonight William, Blessings and thanks for all your hard work and study! C]
      http://gatesofthecity.wordpress.com/2011/06/ http://gatesofthecity.wordpress.com/2011/05/04/the-eighth-beast/

  4. Cindy, I am impressed at what you have put together here! You have summarized an assortment of God’s pronouncements against America, as well as including history and symbolism, and tied it all in with current events. Starting with the title of the article, you have really nailed it!

    First, the Statue of Liberty. Pagan? Yes! I believe her to represent Ishtar, the mother goddess. She is the goddess who has symbolized the spirit of Babylon/rebellion from time immemorial.

    Next, “Mystery Babylon”. Yes, Babylon is certainly a place, not a religion or a culture or an economy, but a country. However, I believe that the term “Mystery Babylon” has been misapplied. I believe that, to the True Church, the identity of Babylon need no longer be a “mystery”, for it is instead a “sacred secret” (this is the Greek word “musterion”). Our Lord will reveal to us this sacred secret if we seek it . . . how? . . . by seeking Him. The solution to unmasking the sacred secret is a diligent study of the Word under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. This is a pretty big clue, for with it we understand that the True Church in the last days will suddenly realize who “Babylon” is, and that is America. But the vast majority will remain blind.

    You have pointed out 4 of the most important Chapters in the Bible which discuss the end times Babylon, Babylon the Great; Revelation 17 and 18 and Jeremiah 50 and 51. Other key Chapters are Isaiah 13, 14, 21, and 47. Here is Isaiah 47, 1-3:

    1Come down, and sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon*, sit on the ground: there is no throne, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called tender and delicate.

    2Take the millstones, and grind meal: uncover thy locks, make bare the leg, uncover the thigh, pass over the rivers.

    3Thy nakedness shall be uncovered, yea, thy shame shall be seen: I will take vengeance, and I will not meet thee as a man.

    *It seems apparent that this verse refers to America as the spiritual daughter of Babylon . . . in Jeremiah 50:12 (below), we see that America also has a physical mother, and is therefore also the daughter of Britain.

    12Your mother shall be sore confounded; she that bare you shall be ashamed: behold, the hindermost of the nations shall be a wilderness, a dry land, and a desert.

    Yes, precisely, as you have stated America is the unifier of languages, not to mention of culture, religion, and the spreading of prostitution. I believe that God is referring to both physical and spiritual prostitution. You stated it very well, Cindy, in that America used to be a gold cup in His hand. America was meant for great things. She fulfilled her purpose, turned her back on the One who had blessed her immeasurably, and now her time is nearing its end.

    I was so thrilled to read your article this evening, Cindy, as this is a topic of such great importance and you will reach many with your words. As usual, you have taken a variety of concepts and ideas, organized them very well, presented them tidily, and given us all a lot to think about, and to “watch” (starting tomorrow).

    Abundant blessings to you,

    Carlos

    P.S.: I have written about Ishtar & America here (focus on Madonna as an Ishtar/Statue of Liberty “type”)-

    http://nabiy4america.wordpress.com/2010/12/18/madonna-aka-%E2%80%9Cesther%E2%80%9D-a-type-of-the-harlot-of-babylon-documented-astounding-connections-to-mother-goddess-ishtar/

    And on “Mystery Babylon” here-

    http://nabiy4america.wordpress.com/2010/10/20/mystery-babylon-revealed/

    Thought your readers might want to read up a bit more on these fascinating topics which you have introduced!

    [Thank you, Carlos for your input and your more than kind words. Each time I write, I try of course, to do my best. I really want to nail it! But, I realized that it is not the task of any one person to do it alone, for God does not intend for one person to carry the burden alone. It is through each one of us (whether bloggers, those who write in the comments section, or simply readers), that God makes use of this tool we call “blogging”. I so appreciate all that you have added to my post today! Much aloha and God’s blessing to you dear brother! C]

  5. Thanks Cindy. I hear you.
    And I appreciate your heart desire for those you love to come to that ‘realization’, but it may be that the Lord only opens certain eyes more than other (a remnant that He prepared).
    I get on my own soapbox (without even trying!). I didn’t realize I carry it around with, but I must even though it’s invisible!
    Hope you’re feeling – getting rid of your flu bug.
    It just seems that God is really shaking ‘realities’ lately. What I was raised to believe about life it sure different from what is coming to today’s reality – it’s like an altered state reality.

    And, it may just be for this reason you’re able to comprehend it, because God is revealing to you little by little. While making you rely on Him more instead of family or whoever … which is really tough.
    But here’s one for you:)
    1 Thes 5:11
    “Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also you do.”
    God Bless!
    (Also, God does use donkeys!)

    [Thank you DC, I was able to go back to work today after being home sick all last week. First time, I’ve had to call in sick in ten years – so, I figure God was keeping me home for a reason. Lots of time to think, read, and blog, in-between sleeping and fighting off fever and chills. The Lord was leading you when you quoted 1 Thess 5:11 – all of my family lives in the mainland so the comfort of friends (and friends in the blogging world) has meant a lot. Thanks so much for writing! C]

  6. Nicely done Cindy,

    Well you certainly won’t get any argument from me. I have tried for years to share this as gracefully as I can to a patriotic church. How easily they read over how Abraham was called out of his country to seek another . . . and how jealously so many defend this one.

    All the nations are but dust in the scales before God, temporal dominions allowed whereby He can show a world full of individuals that the Creator of heaven and earth reigns supreme.

    Yes, Babylon the great is fallen . . .

    Peace, William

    http://gatesofthecity.wordpress.com/america/

    [ Thanks William, I really think there are those out there who think “Patriotism is next to godliness” and that if we would just return to our founding principles and get back to when we were a “Christian nation” everything would be all right. The problem is, the wheat has been growing up with the tares from the beginning – but, a lot of folks just can’t or won’t see it. I’m as nostolgic as the next person for the good ol days – and times were different, when I was a kid but, this world never was our home and most of us (including myself) have gotten far too comfortable in it. Blessings William, you in-put always appreciated! C]

  7. Cindy – even though late tonight I have had the following thoughts go through my mind. The thought keeps returning that Tuesday’s dinner is being held for powerful sorcerers to conjure up evil. Tuesday is 7/11. Thursday is (another) 9/11!! And Saturday (which I understand from Jewish Calendars) is the true date of Pentecost – 11/11. In the various prophecies I have read about the breaking open of one of the great lakes being dumped into the Mississippi (which I believe is the flood of Rev 12) happens in Chicago. I just caught
    on someone else’s blog today (I have been on many – I don’t remember where I saw this – sorry to anyone with that blog reading this) that the Sears tower located in Chicago may well be an open portal. From the pictures, it looks just like the Tower of Nimrod to me.

    Could this be the “conjuring” going on during dinner on the 7th of June – the event to occur on (the second) 9/11? This almost seems too bizarre for any rational person to consider!

    Things to pray about.

    Hi Jeane, Thanks for writing! I too feel some how that tomorrow is a signficant day. Whether we see any overt sign of that, I don’t know but, somehow I just feel in my bones that this alliance between the United States (Obama) and Germany is not a good thing. I’ve been watching for news leaks regarding tomorrows meeting, but, it is being held under pretty tight wraps. One article I found mentioned would be an important player in the mid-East peace process. May be its just me, but, one would think their history might disqualify them from being part of this process. But, may be that’s just me. Here’s an excerpt from the article I read:

    “I’ve been watchingHeather Conley, a European scholar at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said Germany is playing a growing and important role in international affairs, from the global economy and Europe’s debt crisis to the Mideast peace process and the war in Afghanistan. Germany has backed the U.S. by sending thousands of troops to Afghanistan, but has avoided involvement in Libya.” http://www.wfrv.com/news/national/123222738.html

    As far as the other things you mentioned, I’ve never heard about any of those, but, I will say this: time is coming, if not already here, when “bizarre” will be the norm for the day -a good read of Revelation tells us that! Blessings sister and thanks for writing! C]

  8. There are many that are tenuously attached to Christ and the worlds system. as theses two kingdoms grow further apart, the growing divide will make it much more difficult. It is heartbreaking to watch. The Lord Jesus makes it clear that if you come to him you must give up on every other thing. This is the crossroads where most of Americas Christians are today. The result is a growing apostate church that insists on reconciling both. It can not be done. The church (it’s Elder-ship and leaders) we have attended for some time has compromised the truth in order to “look good”. The thing for God’s people is as it always has been, turn from that which is not from God as it is made known. If a person cannot make that choice today, how will they when real persecution comes and seeks to force submission to satan and the worlds system? I have begun standing at this church and there are some who agree but, stand silently by and allow time to pass without saying a word. I took some heat for that but it had to be done. The church is moving forward as though nothing ever happened. Satan is gaining control over the church because no one is stopping him. Did God not say he would protect his people? We can encourage Gods people to stand in faithfulness and we do that by speaking the truth in love. Our country’s “christian heritage” is a cover for those who crept in unnoticed established themselves into the church and left behind a legacy of false teaching that is just now beginning to surface on a large scale. A church divided in it’s allegiance. One of the big hooks that the worlds system has on the church is it’s 501-3c not for profit tax exempt status. The qualifications now include some things that gives the government control over some of it’s policies in order to remain qualified. This is just beginning to surface and I am sure that this is a way in to control what the church does. The church can govern and run itself as long as it is in compliance.
    We as Gods people should see the writing on the wall as well. After what has happened to my company and myself since the fall of 2008. (kind of ironic that that works two ways). I am being very shy about any agreement that I find myself in. I will serve Christ and him alone I will not pay homage knowingly to any other thing.
    Jeff

    [ Very well said, Jeff! I think you have really nailed it on a number of points. I agree, the tax exempt status is a hook in the Jaw that is going to come back and bite us big time! We all know the day is coming by the gay and lesbian acceptance that was forced upon the military – I’m sure when they next take aim, it will be the churches. In a smaller way, but, on-going here in Hawaii, because of our growing homeless population, the Governor is “suggesting” that we stop feeding the homeless, so that they will go in to shelters. According to his reasoning, by feeding them we are enabling them to stay on the street.

    Lately he has been petitioning churches to stop with their meal programs, telling them, if they want to help, help a shelter. In one sense, I can see some reasoning to this, but, on the other, I absolutely am against the government getting involved in this arena. Many churches also preach the gospel, and hold worship services when they serve meals. Are they going to get that at a shelter? I don’t think so. I’m wondering if the next time I go to Waikiki in search of my homeless friends, will they still be there or will they have been rounded up on buses and taken somewhere? And, if I do find them, will I be jailed for giving them a sandwich! Can you believe it! C]

    • Jeff – what you have stated is SPOT ON with the move of the Holy Spirit. Christians are already at the cross-roads. Some of us were forced out of the church because we refused to allow ourselves to participate in upholding a system the Lord was obviously taking down.

      You are SPOT ON when you talk about choices. It will break up homes – it will break up families – it WILL break up husband and wife. For some – it will cost us every relationship we have had – few will be willing to pay the price and will settle on the easier path (which leads them to death). If they can’t make that choice now (without a gun to their head), they WILL NOT stand when the heat is put on them.

      It is heartbreaking. I find it to be a “death bed” choice. By that I mean that we are being forced NOW to choose to follow Christ regardless of what that cost is. We came into this world alone – and this choice will be made alone – give it ALL up for the Lord – everything and everyone – or an eternity in hell.

      When the truth came out about flu shots – that they lower our resistance to strains of many viruses – that the “shot” was created and patented one year before the first person became ill – some people were forced by their job – or some were forced by the school they were going to — to get them. I found that very few refused them when put in a tough situation — not a death threat with a gun to their heads – and yet they still stood in line and took them.

      Those were small choices on the scale of the big picture – eternity! Their cost would have been find another job where shots were not a requirement – or put your child in a school that did not require the flu shots or home-school. It certainly wasn’t a choice with a gun to their heads.

      I have come to believe that when Revelation talks about “The Remnant” it may well be a “Remnant.” I don’t believe there will be many that will stand strong against what’s coming.

      I believe there is a group that will avoid all that’s coming (raptured or hidden). They have cleaned up their life – gone to great lengths to purify their lives – to create a “holy” atmosphere for the wedding – where two will become one (Jesus and the bride) and through repentence and the blood of Christ been made spotless for the groom, Jesus.

      The second group, the wheat harvest, are those that refuse to even acknowledge we are in the death throws of the earth – they refuse to clean up their act, and go on living as if nothing has changed. They refuse to separate themselves from an unholy church or to even pray for truth so that their eyes will be opened.

      They are the group in Revelation 12 that satan goes after and there will be a few that will stand in the face of GREAT adversity. But for the most part (based on what I have witnessed the last two years), I don’t think there will be many.

      • Worth noting: There are still many faithful churches out there and it is our duty to seek one out, not forsake the local assembly of the body of Christ.

  9. Cindy
    I have been reading your blog for quite some time now, and today I really felt the intensity with this last entry. It is time to begin to speak out and speak the truth.
    There was a book I read in 1998 by Richard Coombes, “America, The Babylon” http://www.americathebabylon.com , well worth a read. Many have noticed America’s true colours for quite some time now.

    Stay prayerful. The Lord will deliver His own.

    Taiwo.

    [Thanks Taiwo for writing and for your blessed encouragement. I have not read the book you mentioned, but, I just clicked on the link and look forward to investigating it further. Thanks so much for passing it on to me! Grace and blessings! C]

  10. Another good article. It is truly sad that the Holy Spirit is not the Spirit of America today. Was it ever? After reading many books about the Christian foundations of America there is no doubt that God had a plan for it’s early settlers (Puritans), yet as many of your commentators have rightfully stated, so did those who were collaborating with the devil. There were two agendas being played out simultaneously, God’s and the Devil’s and it is still being played out today. After listening to The Fuel Project Series (Know Your Enemy) and reading Tom Horn’s Apollyon Rising 2012 the enemies subterfuge was made clearly evident. Yet I cannot dismiss the fact that our God is Greater. The enemy is only big in his mind and the dupes that follow him. In reality he is nothing more than a pathetic small anarchist who has waged a failed rebellion to defeat his Creator. (Isa 14:15- 16 15 Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, To the lowest depths of the Pit. 16. “Those who see you will gaze at you, [And] consider you, [saying: ‘Is] this the man who made the earth tremble, Who shook kingdoms,) God’s plan is going to win out in these last days. Will there be a great falling away and a revival? I believe both are happening even as I write. For those of us who are reliant on only the saving Grace of our God, He will have abundant mercy because “His mercy endures forever” (used 41 times in the Bible). As in the days of Abraham, God had mercy on Lot in the midst of the abominations of Sodom and Lot was no saint (who offers up his daughter to the perverts at the door???) Remember Abraham’s intercessions and God’s reply that He would not destroy it if there were found 10 righteous. Sadly that was not the case with Sodom but I know there are more than 10 in America. However, God’s solution to Lot was to spare him by taking him out before the total destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. No doubt America is worthy of all the wrath that God could ever muster, yet for the righteous He is still showing us mercy in the midst of judgment. I am glad I will not be here in America when His full fury is unleashed!

    [ Hi Frank, Thanks for a beautifully written comment! There has been much written on the subject of America’s history and how grateful I am for those who have had the time to research and study it. I, too am hoping for the rapture before this judgment takes place, if Revelation is in chronological order (William Males, maybe you could help on this question) then, we are a few short years from that event – doesn’t mean though that the judgment has not already begun – I have never seen so many simultaneous disasters taking place one after another across this country in my life – now the Arizona fire – from the East Coast to the West – nothing but, trouble. How thankful I am to be held in the shelter of the Almighty! C]

    • Cindy;
      I live in Tucson and our sky has been hazy for over 3 weeks from various wildfires that don’t include the big ones that the national media are reporting. My son works for the Forest Service and they are closing all access to the forest on our mountain retreat, Mt Lemmon, because of the fire danger. There is a new fire that started near the border and is now threatening homes just 60 miles from where I live. This fire is over 60,000 acres as of this morning. The fire danger is so bad that my son said the fire incident supervisor told them that a spark can travel up to 3 miles in the winds that we have been having and ignite a new fire. Pretty bizarre, 3 miles!!!! Absolutely no way to stop that kind of threat. Please pray for us in Az because we could use more humidity, rain would be a real blessing, but just more moisture in the air would help reduce the risks of the fire spreading. Our relative humidity has been in the single digits.

      [ Hi Frank, thanks so much for writing! My heart and my prayers are with all of you living with in the path and range of this terrible fire. I just saw some video footage and it truly is incredible and heartbreaking. My mom lives in northern New Mexico and so far has not mentioned any smoke, but, the news report I just watched a few moments ago, mentioned that smoke is creating a health hazard as far away as Colorado Springs. I lived a couple of hours west of there for several years, so that really drove home the point to me as to how really big this fire is. Keeping you in prayer brother, Stay safe! Cindy]

  11. Wow! Definitely watch Jay’s suggestion:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/TheFuelProject#g/u

    These short videos are excellent!!! Just click ahead until you get to one you are interested in if you don’t have the time to view them all. (The first one is an intro and noisy but the rest are excellent!)

    Especially the one about Lady Liberty!!

    Suzy

    [Hi Suzy, thanks for the link, they all do look excellent! I hope to have some time this weekend to check some of them out. Grace and blessings, C]

  12. Yes. Pain is the feeling when we look upon what our nation has become.

    However, let us not forget that the leaders who lead others into sin are those who will pay a very harsh price from the Lord our God if they do not repent.

    Let’s see, did Rep. Wiener repent today. NO!! He just said what he had to say and did not truly repent.

    Why is it that the only ones repenting for our nation are the very ones who have been targeted as potential terrorists and even “enemies” of the USA? Why do we (the hated) seek forgiveness for a nation whos current leaders hate those who truly follow the Book. That’s right, real Christians and real Jews. They are hated by all who love what America is now. Why is that?

    I can’t help but think of the relationship of Abraham and Lot. Abraham (Jesus) bargined for the lives of the righteous in S&G. God then removed Lot (the faithful) and his family (the only righteous in town) so that the deal he made with Abraham would be kept yet still destroy S&G.

    America is S&G and Babylon rolled into one; no doubt about that. I just hope that we are as righteous as Lot, who by the way was one of the leaders of S&G who also offered his daughters to the sodomites to save the Angels of the Lord. (How faithful is that?) How much more will God hate our current leaders who gain power by protecting and promoting the killing of our children, the killing of faith, the killing of our Lord in the public square. How much more will His Wrath be?

    We better get back to praying for forgiveness now.

    YBIC

    DR

    [ Hi D, thanks for writing. How pathetic we have become when our trusted leaders can’t even be trusted to up-hold their own families and marriages. Well, what can I say – same story, different face for the tabloids. Politics in America today is like looking in a mirror – they reflect us, and we reflect them. Polls still show that we expect more from them, but, do we really? If they couldn’t get away with it, they wouldn’t do it. I’m sure glad Jesus is coming! C]

    • …can someone explain why he offered his daughter to protect the angels? How could a father do that….and an angel can protect himself, right?

      { Hi Sue, I agree this is a difficult passage to understand. Instead of attempting to answer your question myself, I did an internet search and found this website called “The Christian Defense”. I think they do a pretty good job answering the question. Its a little bit long, but, I encourage you to read it to the end. It not only answers the question, but, leaves the reader with some thought provoking questions of their own. Let me know what you think. http://www.thechristiandefense.com/viewtopic.php?t=5596 Grace and blessings! C]

      • …thanks for getting back to me. The link helped…i forget that we are human and in a panic we do things out of a reaction, rather than be calm and inquire of God. That that offends us…we should consider it and find out why..as it is speaking to us of something we need to deal with. I am sooo thankful God is a righteous judge….and that His ways are above mine 🙂 …take care, and blessings of His peace, love, and joy be in you this day.

        [You’re very welcome Sue, I appreciate hearing back from you! C]

      • wow Cindy, if that was “a little bit long” then I’m in trouble LOL
        William

        [Thanks William, always nice to hear from you! C]

  13. Cindy
    I am taking a different perspective. There are many comparisons that can made of America to Mystery Babylon. However, until men see massive persecution of the saints (the blood of the saints spilt) which Revelations 17/18 clearly discusses, i just dont see the US being it. Its very possible this persecution could occur but to be honest, i just dont see it anytime soon. That said, if you count the destruction of human life thru abortion, this is a holocaust and if count these children in the womb as saints, the USA is in big trouble!

    [ Hi Arnie, A different perspective always welcome! If Revelation is in chronological order ( which I think it is) then, it is at the most 7 short years away. I don’t know how old you are, but, when you get my age, you can almost hold your breath that long! But, as I already mentioned in one of my previous comments, judgment on America in my opinion has already begun. I don’t think we have to wait until we’re a total incinerated mess to recognize it. Blessings, C]

    • Re 13:7 And it was given unto him [the eighth beast] to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

      America has been waging a cold war against the saints for some time now and has overcome them with the cares and pleasures of the world. But the time is coming were true believers will be persecuted, but at first so much for their faith, but rather for non compliance of laws that will be put in place that true believers will not be able to comply with. But remember how quickly things turned in early France, Germany and other countries . . . it is the same fallen man here with the same demonic influence.

      And yes . . . the shedding of innocent blood counts.

      http://gatesofthecity.wordpress.com/2011/05/04/the-eighth-beast/

      [Good point, William, things for Jews in those countries turned bad – fast! Great work on the eighth beast – looking forward to your next installment! C]

      • I, too, am looking forward to your next installment of the Eighth Beast, William. When can we look for it?

        Kim

  14. D. Randall,
    If you belong to Christ, you have the imputed righteousness of Christ and are spotless and blameless. Not because you deserve it but because of God’s grace and mercy. Joint heirs with Jesus as I travel this sod, I’m so glad that I’m part of the family of God. God so loved the world that he gave His only begotten Son.

    At 3:10 am a 4.2 quake struck 30 miles south of Washington, Missouri at a depth of 3.2 miles. This quake occurred approx. 12 miles south east of Interstate 44.
    http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Quakes/usc00041ic.php

    Father in heaven, allow us this day to live for you in a way that brings glory to your name. Give us wisdom and understanding in these day’s, give us compassion for the lost, and a growing trust in your Word.

    • Jeff, I fully agree.

      But, did I say something that lead you to belive that I was not belonging to Christ?

      Salvaiton is a gift and Lot certainly recieved one. But his wife looked back, I would guess becuase there was someone or something that she was going to miss. S&G was totally evil so she was longing for some sort of sin. So salt she is.

      I think that this is a lesson for all of who want to belong to Christ. If you long for this world you are in essence looking back at S&G and may not get your ticket punched.

  15. Great post, Cindy. I enjoy reading your blog very much. But I felt a need to share this today.

    Until the Lord comes and removes us from this earth, we are to be responsible citizens of whatever country/state we live in, rendering unto Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s. We are to be on our knees in prayer confessing our sins and asking God to forgive our sins, individually and as a country, so that He will hear from heaven and heal our land. I, too, believe the US has all the earmarks of end times Babylon, but in this article, it is hopeful to see some leaders in the country calling out for prayer and fasting.

    Texas Governor Perry Requests Other Governors to Join Him in Prayer and Fasting

    We need to uphold leaders like this with our prayers and our votes. It’s not over until we’re gone. We do have to live in this world even while we are not “of” it.

    Kim

    [Thanks Kim, always nice to hear from you. Thanks for providing the above link, it was so inspiring and so refreshing! We are, of course, always to pray for those God has set in authority over us. Your reminded much appreciated! C]

  16. D Randall,
    I did not intend to imply that you did not belong to Christ, only to encourage you to hang on and continue to intercede on behalf of those who don’t belong to Christ, apparently or not. People or Nations or organizations are not the enemy, Satan is the enemy. I’m in the middle of a situation at a church that is very difficult, however it is the Lord’s church he has called me to it until he calls me somewhere else. Do not grow weary in well doing. Work for Christ, expect Him to work, leave the rest to the Holy Spirit. I do think that it is going to seem like we are bailing a sinking ship with a tea cup. We are responsible to keep focused on Christ and what wants and intends to do. I expect God to do great things, and he does.
    Mark 10:27
    And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.
    Blessings to you,
    Jeff

    • Jeff,

      May God Keep and Bless you in your work.

      Thank you for the clarification. I didn’t think you were admonishing me but I just like to make sure I am never guessing what people mean. I need to know either way so I am not left in the dark.

      I don’t know when He will come but my guess is that we will al say: “But of course!!” once He does.

      I feel that its close, “even at the door.,” so I pray that those brothers and sisters given to such study and watching actually get it right here in the near future.

      YBIC,

      DR

  17. Hi Cindy, I thought I would add this coincidence to the end here, Blessings upon you and your house, I hope were all ready for the year ahead. -Mike

    Coincidence. The Fall of Babylon and 2011

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonia

    The date of the sack of Babylon by the Hittite king Mursilis I is considered crucial to the various calculations of the early chronology of the ancient Near East, since both a solar and a lunar eclipse are said to have occurred in the month of Sivan that year, according to ancient records near 1600 BC

    Then and NOW!, each has a seven year period of eclipses, with a Tetrad of four total lunar eclipses nested in the center all on Jewish Holidays. The pattern is the same for both seven year periods. Date conversions are a little tricky you have to subtract one from the eclipse table for year zero and use then use the Julian date.

    http://www.abdicate.net/cal.aspx

    Gregorian: May 31, 1600 B.C. (ante ¹)
    Julian: June 14, 1600 B.C. (ante ¹)
    Jewish: Sivan 14, 2161
    SDN: 1137188.5 ²
    Weekday: Thursday

    LUNAR Eclipses http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/5MCLE/5MKLEcatalog.txt

    THEN
    00996 -1599 Jun 14 02:41:15 37213 -44509 014 T-
    00997 -1599 Dec 09 04:49:23 37203 -44503 019 P
    00998 -1598 Jun 03 17:03:20 37192 -44497 024 P
    00999 -1598 Nov 28 05:24:52 37182 -44491 029 N
    01000 -1597 Apr 25 03:23:27 37173 -44486 -004 N
    01001 -1597 May 24 10:19:10 37171 -44485 034 N
    01002 -1597 Oct 18 11:57:26 37162 -44480 001 N
    01003 -1596 Apr 13 16:18:14 37152 -44474 006 T
    01004 -1596 Oct 06 21:24:52 37141 -44468 011 T
    01005 -1595 Apr 02 22:01:42 37131 -44462 016 T
    01006 -1595 Sep 26 12:15:20 37120 -44456 021 T
    01007 -1594 Mar 22 22:36:05 37110 -44450 026 N
    01008 -1594 Sep 16 04:00:56 37099 -44444 031 N
    01009 -1593 Feb 10 12:23:39 37090 -44439 -002 P
    01010 -1593 Aug 07 02:41:53 37080 -44433 003 P
    01011 -1592 Jan 31 00:47:15 37069 -44427 008 T-
    01012 -1592 Jul 26 04:54:09 37058 -44421 013 T+

    NOW
    09675 2011 Jun 15 20:13:43 67 141 130 T+
    09676 2011 Dec 10 14:32:56 68 147 135 T
    09677 2012 Jun 04 11:04:20 68 153 140 P
    09678 2012 Nov 28 14:34:07 68 159 145 N
    09679 2013 Apr 25 20:08:38 68 164 112 P
    09680 2013 May 25 04:11:06 68 165 150 Nb
    09681 2013 Oct 18 23:51:25 68 170 117 N
    09682 2014 Apr 15 07:46:48 69 176 122 T
    09683 2014 Oct 08 10:55:44 69 182 127 T
    09684 2015 Apr 04 12:01:24 69 188 132 T
    09685 2015 Sep 28 02:48:17 69 194 137 T
    09686 2016 Mar 23 11:48:21 70 200 142 N
    09687 2016 Sep 16 18:55:27 70 206 147 N
    09688 2017 Feb 11 00:45:03 70 211 114 N
    09689 2017 Aug 07 18:21:38 70 217 119 P

    09690 2018 Jan 31 13:31:00 71 223 124 T
    09691 2018 Jul 27 20:22:54 71 229 129 T+

    Solar Eclipses http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEcat5/SE-1599–1500.html

    THEN
    LUNAR -1599 Jun 14, SIVAN 14
    SOLAR -1599 Jun 29, SIVAN 29

    NOW
    LUNAR 2011 Jun 15, SIVAN 13
    SOLAR 2011 Jul 01, SIVAN 29

    “both a solar and a lunar eclipse are said to have occurred in the month of Sivan the year Babylon fell.”

    [Amazing!!!! I hope everyone gets a chance to see this, may be I can work it in today’s post, this coming week is looking to be a very important one. Thanks so much for sharing Michael! C]

    • Sometimes pictures are worth a thousand words Michael, I hope this adds to your post.

      http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2011/luisv418.htm

      [Excellent! Thanks for providing the link! C]

      • I live in Europe and for some odd reason I cannot open the doves site.
        Though, I had sent my notes to Luis Vega; he is a wonderfully skilled graphic artist and servant of Christ.

        I imagine, even if you were a Babylonian cleric of that ancient era and saw the red moon rising across the reflecting pool you might suspect some changes were about to occur. They thought it important enough to record on a stone cylinder. But today that would seem like nonsense and the definition of lunacy to the person on the street.

        And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring. Luke 21:25

        [ Hi Michael, it sounds like the chart is based on your work. It’s very well done. And, thank you again for the information you sent on the destruction of the first Babylon, I’m hoping every one will get a chance to see the information you sent in the comment section of my previous blog, “the spirit of Babylon”. C]

  18. Cindy, I believe as you do that America is indeed the daughter of Babylon, only that Revelation 18, Jeremiah 50 and 51 refer to political Babylon, while Revelation 17 refers to religious Babylon and a religious system that holds sway over the kings of the earth.
    I will be blunt, no other religious system can match Revelation 17 like Catholicism.

    • My speculation

      The prophecy may have multiple applications.

      It is not evident in history that Babylon was destroyed in the manner prophesied in the Bible; perhaps it was in antiquity 1600 BC, which would have been a thousand years prior. Though, the prophecy that “it will never be rebuilt” remains to be fulfilled. The literal Babylon fell into ruins after Alexander and is just now being restored, first by Saddam and now with US support.

      Now, consider the fact that America’s garrisons encircle the planet. A vast network of bases on every continent, that in itself constitutes a new form of empire. Thirteen naval task forces, each one superior to any third world military, a network of space based assets, a fleet of nuclear submarines and an arsenal of nuclear weapons deployed throughout the world. And all of this power is not dependent on the continental United States. If some event occurred that caused the UN headquarters to relocate, which caused the Pentagon and the White House to redeploy. Where might they relocate?

      In Nebuchadnezzar’s dream written in Daniel the final world system was illustrated as the feet of clay, it was the end of the Roman Empire that divided the legs between two capitals Rome and Byzantium, Constantine then renamed Byzantium Constantinople also making it the primary capitol. After that it became Istanbul of the Ottoman Empire, now the seat of what is perhaps the rising Islamic Caliphate. So it is not too far fetched to foresee a world ruler based in the literal Babylon with a world religion based on Apostate Christianity and Islam, Rome (The Vatican) and Istanbul, both known as cites built on ten hills.

      Just a thought…

      Blessings,
      Mike

      • If one link does not work for you Michael, try this one, but you will have to scroll down to see it,

        http://twelvebooks.wordpress.com/tag/lunar-eclipses/

        Take a look at Jeremiah 50:12.

        Your mother shall be sore confounded; she that bare you shall be ashamed: behold, the hindermost of the nations shall be a wilderness, a dry land, and a desert.

        As a previous post said and is correct, the mother that bare her( the USA) was indeed Britain, and this nation that is described as the hindermost or the last of the nations to come into the family of nations. That would fit the USA, a very young nation.
        The Lord’s people, the Jews are warned to come out of Babylon because of the Lord’s judgements that are to come against this nation which is described in verse 23 of Jer 50:23 as being the hammer of all the earth, like the description you give of the USA and all her military might. This nation is ripe for judgement Michael, and unfortunately, turning into a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah, her sins being, abortion, homosexuality, immorality, corruption etc etc and to say this great sin, to turn against the nation of Israel.

        There are a great number of Jews living in the USA , who should heed this warning seriously from the Lord in Jer 50 and 51 to come out of BABYLON, but not so in Iraq, as they are very few in number that live there..

      • Michael want to read about the true reality of Revelation 17 and who will head up MYSTERY BABYLON!

        http://ivarfjeld.wordpress.com/2009/07/21/the-papal-throne-to-shift-from-rome-to-jerusalem/

  19. Cindy
    Thanks for the reply (and others) about America and considering my comment about needing to see an open persecution of the saints to be able to say, “America indeed is mystery Babylon”. This may be one of those prophetic words we have to live through partially to be able to say “this is it”. I will throw out another thought too, that the protestant church in europe also saw the persecution against them (lots of blood of the saints were spilled by the harlot catholic popes and their dragoons, the jesuits—hundred of thousands, or more died brutal deaths at the hands of false believers who thought they were doing the work of God. the catholic church and the popes were named by many protestants to be the whore of babylon and the persecutor of the saints…and yet the catholic church has been decimated and has lost most of their glory and influence because God has lifted up their skirts to reveal filthyness and profanity. But the end has not yet come. what this says to me is that when mystery babylon actually arrives on the scene it is going to be something so vast and so barbaric, it will make the atrocities of the inquisition look like a small thing!
    Arnie

    [Well, you are right Arnie, We know that many (millions ???) will suffer the loss of their heads for the faith during this period we call the tribulation. I haven’t gotten there yet, but, looking ahead, I think it will be a point of discussion when we get to the 117th Psalm. Grace and blessings and thanks for writing! C]

  20. Cindy, I agree with you on America being a type of Babylon, but not Mystery Babylon.
    Mystery Babylon can only be Catholicism, and even Catholics defend a portion of scripture from 1Peter 5:13 speaking to the fact, that Peter in his closing salutations from the church that is at Babylon, was in fact Rome. This Rome will be destroyed by antichrist, who is represented by the ten horns which sit upon his head, those horns representative of the revived Roman empire.

    America will be destroyed by a nation out of the North, and Russia is North of us. In Jeremiah 50:9 it states- “For, lo, I will raise and cause to come against Babylon an assembly of great nations from the north country: and they shall set themselves in array against her; from thence she shall be taken: their arrows shall be as of a mighty expert man; none shall return in vain.”

    The same coalition that comes against Israel, will preempt a strike against the U.S., her arrows (missiles) will find their targets, every arrow hitting their mark. Only then will that confederation of countries then attack Israel, which the Lord will defend by nearly wiping them out.

    The timing, near the middle of the tribulation for both the destruction of Rome, Mystery Babylon and the U.S., political Babylon.

    Mystery Babylon(Rome), because Satan and the antichrist will have no more use of the one world church as he proclaims to be “the god of this world”

    Christ warned his people the Jews about this when he told them to watch for antichrist entering the temple to proclaim himself as god in Mathew 24:15.

    That judgement which God had promised upon Babylon (the USA) will have used the coalition of countries from the north to fulfill His Word in Jer 50 and 51 and Revelation 18.

    [You make some very good points, Mark and I thank you for writing and sharing with us from another view point. It adds to the richness of the discussion and that is always welcome. Grace and blessings! C]

    • From Dave Hunt’s, “A Woman rides the Beast”,

      As for “Mystery,” that name imprinted on the woman’s forehead is the perfect designation for Vatican City. Mystery is at the very heart of Roman Catholicism, from the words “Mysterium fide” pronounced at the alleged transformation of the bread and wine into the literal body and blood of Christ to the enigmatic apparitions of Mary around the world. Every sacrament, from baptism to extreme unction, manifests the mysterious power which the faithful must believe the priests wield, but for which there is no visible evidence. Rome’s new Catechism explains that liturgy “aims to initiate souls into the mystery of Christ (It is ‘mystagogy.’)” and that all of the Church’s liturgy is “mystery.”3

  21. […] https://cindybythesea.wordpress.com/2011/06/05/the-spirit-of-america-the-spirit-of-babylon/ […]

    • I did read your post Carlos, hope you are ready to apologize to the millions who have been martyred by the Catholic church, who is the Whore of Babylon.

      Also, to change the meaning of scripture is not a safe thing to do, and what I mean is that God’s word stands on its own, there is no private interpretation of scripture but holy men wrote as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. 2Peter 1:20,21

      I would encourage you Carlos to seriously reconsider your stand on Revelation 17 on the basis of Revelation the 22nd chapter, especially the last part,

      I say this in meekness for I am nothing more than a sinner, saved by grace.


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